He says the same about the staggered stance btw. I'd really like to get 3rd gear wheelies someday. For now, working on riding 2nd's out at slower speeds with more balance as opposed to just throttling it out. Run out of gear and rpm's too quick.
Typically for me I prefer sitting down if I can power it up with the throttle it up, stand up if I need to bounce it. It's usually sitting down in 1st, and standing in 2nd/3rd gear on most of the bikes i've had. I used to slip the clutch on my old supermoto but I really try not to abuse the bike like that.
My old speed four was a wheelie monster. I used to be able to stand up and bounce it up at 90mph in 3rd gear. You'd be going almost 120 by the time the gear topped out and you had to set it down. That was when I was young and stupid though. With how much power the S3 has, I typically just do low speed power wheelies from stop signs and out of sharp turns in 1st gear and leave it at that. I try to control myself for my wife's sake. I already feel bad enough that I can't help but to start cracking up every time I say I'm going for a ride and she says "you're going to keep both wheels on the ground, right?!"
Sick lift on those wheelies cheap! Riding the balance point in 2nd?
If you have some spare coin, perhaps drop Joe Houle a line - he may, be able to help. Otherwise our Richmond Motorsports friend in the cam swap thread has a heap of first hand info the cam swap...
Back to wheelies - Work and hold the balance point, and you won't run out of revs too quick - I'd say that's what your buddy is doing - experience gained from dirt biking, additionally the GSXR six had a heap of rpm to play with - get it up at 6k and you got till 14k or something silly. On the FZ1 he's playing the torque just like we do on Speedy, but again he's got a few more revs.
A free flowing muffler and remapping will help to hoist the front easier with less effort.
Cos my Speedy is a daily commuter I went through a phase of chasing fuel economy - I went to 19/42. I was still running that when the cams were fitted. When the chain and sprockets were due for replacement I opted for 18/43 (955i Daytona Std) which has been fantastic.
This has made it feel that bit more stronger everywhere in the rev range. I Sparti and Joe Houle both run 18/45 and Joe loves it. I felt with the extra power I didn't want to fight the front end clawing for the sky more than it does already.
Without cams, standard gearing meant you could ride out 2nd gear wheelies without having to snick the 2nd to 3rd gear change with the front still lofted - my experience is whilst speedy does it, it doesn't do it as well a Suzuki box. The running out of revs issues likely don't affect Joe and Sparti cos Joe is mature and sensible and Sparti is scared.
Oh, and yes mine is a stator hungry 06...
Awesome man, thanks for the in-depth response. Your ride sounds like my ideal setup. Was thinking the same eventually, either a 43 or 44 if I could find it. That's my plans for next winter (hopefully), to get everything together for the cam and sprocket change-up. Was reading about cam lobe specs and saw yours is were set differently at 100 as opposed to 96 where everyone else had it. Care to elaborate? I appreciate being able to learn from you guys on this forum so much. Thanks!
Last edited by mayhem-1965; 04-26-2015 at 09:54 PM.
Yea that pretty much nails it! The fz1 is more powerful than I thought. Great numbers on HP and torque.