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    slip-on options for Speedy 11'

    I've been running my speedy stock for a while, 11' model, dont think anything (performance related) is aftermarket other than the K & N air filter. Yet today I thought why not try the stubby little muffler I got with the bike. Owner had mocked the stock due to the weight and lack of roar, yet I wanted to feel the bike as it was intended, and have quickly grown to love the damn thing. Still, after a few months, its time to get into the nuts and bolts and I installed the stubby muffler today, had to get some pipe clamps from the local hardware store Bunnings, but they seem to have done the trick. Cant really notice much yet in terms of any performance change, but losing that mega weight has made the bike feel lighter...



    Its straight through and I wonder if the 3 into 1 routine has any issues on the engine breathing? My engine understanding is amoeba, so this is probably wrong...the engine has already done its stuff by the time the exhaust reaches the slip-on, so its mainly a change in sound and weight?

    I can probably look to spend a little gold on a better slip-on, but only if there are some definite gains to be felt? If not, I will spend the cash on taking the bike to a suspension specialist and getting them to set the dials up for my weight.

    Would a tune be needed to match this cheapo muffler or any other more decent slip on system I could buy? Met a chap at the pool with a 14' Speedy, and he had some lovely delkevic cans, but even that was loud and if its just the sound, mainly, and my riding, urban grunt with regular raging through the hills, never track days, wont feel any difference in spending hundreds, then I may as well stay with this dwarf muffler and enjoy the shedding of plenty of lbs of metal?
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    G'day Champ,

    What state are you in that's gotta be awful loud... your local highway patrol gonna be okay with that volume?

    To answer your questions, yes slipons/mufflers do affect both power and torque on these motors. And yes, if you intend to keep that "slip on", I'd definitely remap it.

    Did your bike have the dual high mount/under seat mufflers standard? If so, the ECU mapping is radically different to what will be required for your current set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Santa 1050 View Post
    G'day Champ,

    What state are you in that's gotta be awful loud... your local highway patrol gonna be okay with that volume?

    To answer your questions, yes slipons/mufflers do affect both power and torque on these motors. And yes, if you intend to keep that "slip on", I'd definitely remap it.

    Did your bike have the dual high mount/under seat mufflers standard? If so, the ECU mapping is radically different to what will be required for your current set up.

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    Hello mate, down here in Melbourne...and dont mention the Highway Patrol, else those fiends will appear.

    Stock (huge ) mufflers were under the seat. Have done some research, with discussion of high mounts working more comfy with the engine than low mounts, yet nothing certain there.

    been peeking on ebay and around the forums. Could possibly dig deep into both pockets and get a Leo Vince low mount>


    There are also some GPR offerings around a similar price and MIVV GP and SUONO...

    Have you tried using any of the tunes others have made, mate?

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    SC-Project slip ons...

    https://sc-project.com.au/triumph-speed-triple-11-15-exhaust-sc-project/

    -you only live once and I feel like I'm running out of time...

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    Easiest way to quiet exhaust and improve performance?

    Turbo-charger.
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    Hey Champ,

    I have used various tunes and various pipes. There are multiple options for you.

    Just as an aside, the aftermarket dual high pipes are way lighter than the standard - albeit not as light as most low mount gp style pipes.

    Depending on your budget as to which way you go. All dual high mount pipes will always be pricier than the single mounts.
    In terms of low mounts take your pick. With the current exchange rate, we cop a reaming for nearly all of them apart from the Chinese Dan Moto pipes.
    Mivv, and Comp Werkes are quite popular and not as pricey as the some of the exotics. Another alternative which has proven value for money is the M4 for a GSXR 600, which fits with minimal fuss.
    The advantage of that, is there is a bespoke custom map for that exhaust on your model.

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    Info:
    https://www.thespeedtriple.com/forum...ad.php?t=28592


    Video of one of our members bike with the M4:



    The file and details of the custom tune for the M4:
    https://www.thespeedtriple.com/forum...ad.php?t=24325

    That map/tune should be useful for any similar low mount exhausts - especially compared to running the factory map with an aftermarket pipe.

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    As someone who has run multiple low mount pipes, the performance differences can be noticeable.
    Despite my bike being the previous generation Speedy to yours, the motors are close enough for the same lessons to apply. I've successfully run a modified Micron slipon for a GSXR 750, I've also run an OEM R6 muffler from an 06 R6 with a small mid pipe fabricated by a car muffler/exhaust shop. Each of the pipes has a noticeable effect on performance - both in feel and on the dyno.
    My current pipe and favourite pipe is a Chain Reaction Moto (CRM) Single High pipe. Light and it looks and sounds good.
    Exhausts for earlier models can be made to work with later models with minor fabrication work. Often for minimal outlay.

    But whichever way you go, get something longer than that glorified exhaust "tip" you're trialling now. It will be robbing your bike of power, and probably won't be good for it.
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oahu Triple View Post
    SC-Project slip ons...

    https://sc-project.com.au/triumph-speed-triple-11-15-exhaust-sc-project/

    Bit too pricy, mate! Already spent $1500-2000 more than expected when picking up the Speedy a few months back...worth it though!

    Quote Originally Posted by crashmasterd View Post
    Easiest way to quiet exhaust and improve performance?

    Turbo-charger.
    Saw a rider on here who had done just that, crash...was a bit stunned, for the steed already feels stomping like thunder in stock form. Or perhaps I'm getting old!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Santa 1050 View Post
    Hey Champ,

    I have used various tunes and various pipes. There are multiple options for you.

    Just as an aside, the aftermarket dual high pipes are way lighter than the standard - albeit not as light as most low mount gp style pipes.

    Depending on your budget as to which way you go. All dual high mount pipes will always be pricier than the single mounts.
    In terms of low mounts take your pick. With the current exchange rate, we cop a reaming for nearly all of them apart from the Chinese Dan Moto pipes.
    Mivv, and Comp Werkes are quite popular and not as pricey as the some of the exotics. Another alternative which has proven value for money is the M4 for a GSXR 600, which fits with minimal fuss.
    The advantage of that, is there is a bespoke custom map for that exhaust on your model.

    Refer:

    Info:
    https://www.thespeedtriple.com/forum...ad.php?t=28592


    Video of one of our members bike with the M4:



    The file and details of the custom tune for the M4:
    https://www.thespeedtriple.com/forum...ad.php?t=24325

    That map/tune should be useful for any similar low mount exhausts - especially compared to running the factory map with an aftermarket pipe.

    It will be robbing your bike of power, and probably won't be good for it.

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    Brilliant advice, thanks Santa. And the last bit of robbing power is already mind after the initial satisfaction in taking something off and putting something new back on. Assume its running either very rich or very lean, the pop pop on decel is heavy and constant. Not sure if thats air being pulled in or other reasons, either way its due to the stubby tip and enough advice above and elsewhere on the pitfalls of my current setup.

    Also, I can do without any further interactions with the Highway Patrol.

    Peeking at presently>
    The m4 you mentioned - GSX-R600 2011 - 2019 M4 GP2011-2016 GRmoto Muffler Carbon
    MIVV GP exhaust slip-on black inox low
    Exhaust Storm by Mivv Muffler Gp Steel (cheapest!)
    Mivv Exhaust Muffler Suono Steel Low
    EXHAUST GHISA BY GPR
    Instantly keen on this one>>>GPR homologated exhaust with tee. 76.2011/15 ROPE TRIUMPH SPEED TRIPLE 1050 SENSATION BLACK - Black Fury series - Cod: t. 76. cable (middle of the price range and perhaps best looking)


    All coming in between $400 and $600AU. All of them are low mounting. The Ghisa looks lovely! As does the Black Fury (yet what is the word 'rope' doing in there?) Yet the british GRmoto also looks interesting, though not many about to get reviews of...Yet makes most sense to get one with an already established and much loved tune easy to grab and install?

    I'll be happily guided by you folks on what seems for the best, assuming that even if there isn't a set tune for the exact can, then other maps will still work well enough and be an definite improvement on my current stock map with stubby 'tip'!

    Where shall I chuck my gold?
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    Mate,

    Applying logic to your dilemma. If you were after outright power, you'd have bought a Tuono or an S1000R. Therefore you'd like a handling and some power improvement over stock, with a nicer note and nice look.
    Consider that all those exhausts will yield a decent handling and performance improvement with probably 3 - 5 hp difference in outright power between the lowest the lowest and highest performing exhausts. Therefore, pick the one within your budget, that you like the looks of the most. Of those you listed, the GR Moto looks most appealing to me. But beauty eye, beerholder etc. To be honest, I've been awake almost 24 hours after working all night, had 4 shots of whiskey and am about to go to sleep, so my tastes aren't necessarily credible today.

    GR Moto looks similar to a quality REMUS l, or 2 Bros.

    Cheers.

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    Nothing looks better than the Chain Reaction Moto dual high-mounts. This is objective fact. Jesus said so.
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