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    Matris Fork Cartridges?

    Has anyone used these on any of their bikes? I'm shopping around for a fork internals upgrade for the 1098 and would like to keep the non-bling showa forks. It looks like Matris makes a race replica fork cartridge...

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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    We have our own Dual Speed Piston Kit for that application. I've never used Matris components because they do not have a good distribution system in the US. We also have Ohlins 20mm kits.
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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    I used a K-tech kit on the 1050 Tiger, should be similar. About $350 shipped from UK.

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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    I'm pretty sure Cheapo has these springs but hasn't installed them yet... he said he was gonna do it this winter.
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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    I'm talking about the complete cartridge, not just the springs.

    GMD, by dual speed do you mean high/low damping adjustment? What are the +'s and -'s of your two kits? I'd like the best suspension I can get and have a nice range of adjustment to go from road to track. A suspension specialist on the 1098 forums says the stock springs are less than ideal. I know I at bare minimum need stiffer springs for my weight (I think stock is for ~180lb rider). Ideally, I'd like to have a high range of adjustability.

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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuhlka
    I'm talking about the complete cartridge, not just the springs.

    GMD, by dual speed do you mean high/low damping adjustment? What are the +'s and -'s of your two kits? I'd like the best suspension I can get and have a nice range of adjustment to go from road to track. A suspension specialist on the 1098 forums says the stock springs are less than ideal. I know I at bare minimum need stiffer springs for my weight (I think stock is for ~180lb rider). Ideally, I'd like to have a high range of adjustability.
    It's a compression piston I designed back in 2002 and have been using ever since. It separates the high speed compression stack from the low speed compression stack. I can make the fork race track stiff or street bike soft by setting up the compression to be linear, progressive or digressive depending on the application. The external adjusters till work the same way, adjusting only the low speed damping with a little influence on the high speed damping. I have found the Ohlins kits to bee too stiff for USA race tracks and streets. If memory serves, the 1098 has .95 or 1.0 which should be fine for a 180 lb rider.
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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    I found this today;

    http://www.departmentofsuspension.co...s-forkkits.htm

    I'm in the 200-210 range so the stock spring is a bit mushy for my liking. For straight line stuff the bike rides great, but I've noticed unless I'm hanging off, the bike wants to go wide in sharper turns.

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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    Howdy,
    I have the Matris cartridges from Department of Suspension. Very high quality parts from what I can tell. Well packaged, everything fit together exactly right, instructions were detailed, etc.
    The cartridges immediately smoothed out the front end exactly as hoped- I can still feel the road surface but it's all smooth and controlled response from the forks. I think the front now feels better all around than the Ohlins on the rear, although I might just need to tweak the settings more on the shock.
    If you get them and do the installation yourself, it's pretty easy (don't even have to remove the forks) but you have to make sure the cartridge rods are very tightly threaded into the Matris caps and that the locknuts are very tight. This part probably is best done using a spring compressor and possibly with some very thin wrench that I didn't have.
    Good luck!
    Zohar






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    Re: Matris Fork Cartridges?

    Thanks. Thats what I wanted to hear. I think I'm going to send my S3's GSXR front end to GMD when I have the cash and gradually save up for the Matris kit for the 1098 as well as a matching rear shock.

 

 

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