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    Blowing Smoke

    Hi Everybody,

    i have been been away from motorcycles for a few years and I am getting back into it. I have been looking for the right Speed Triple and may have found it! The bike is at a dealer, it looks to be in really good shape but when I asked the sales person to start it she blew out some blackish/bluish smoke. When I asked him about it he said it's been sitting on the kickstand for a few weeks and they all do that when they have been sitting around for awhile. The bike fired right up when he started it so I'm not sure what to think. Anybody have some advice for me?

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    Bullshit. That sounds like valve seals to me.
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    Valve seals huh, it only did it right after startup though and then seemed to clear up. How big of a job is it to replace them?

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    I've never done it on this engine, but I suspect it's no fun.

    But my bigger worry is that it is indicative of either a poorly maintained bike, or a bike not properly broken in.

    Typically bad valve seals or very worn valve guides will drip oil down in the cylinder and intake ports while it sits. While it's running it will still drip oil into the combustion chamber, but at so slow a rate it just burns off with so little smoke you can't tell.

    It could also be a badly broken in bike with glazed cylinders, but I would expect that to smoke a little bit all the time.

    Me, I would run away from this deal.
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    ...no ink and going baconless on your bacon cheeseburger is about the most rebelious thing you can do these days.

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    My bike never smokes, regardless of how long it's been sitting. I'd keep on looking for another bike if I was in your place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnexussix View Post
    My bike never smokes, regardless of how long it's been sitting. I'd keep on looking for another bike if I was in your place.
    +1 No smoke on startup. Look for another one, they are not rare.

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    Thanks guys, I'll take your advice and keep looking

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    Yep sounds like bad valve guides to me too. Normally they won't smoke under accel as pressures keep oil forced out, but will puff oil under engine breaking.

    mine never burns oil even after months on the side stand. I think you should go back and ask him to fully explain exactly what causes this kick stand phenomenon, just because I want the sheer entertainment of his answer
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    Fu ck salesmen, and the bullshit they tell you just to move stock. If you do what Joe suggests, just remember that if the salesman's lips are moving he's telling you lies.
    John







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    I'll just keep looking! Fortunately I don't have to buy the first bike that comes my way. But damn the bike seemed perfect in every other way.

 

 
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