Hey all, I'm crossposting this from my post on Triumphrat.
I recently picked up a 2013 Speed Triple with only 14 miles on it! It's a beast, and maybe the issues I'm having are only due to being in the break-in period, but I've sort of lost my faith in it since it died 3 times on my during my last ride, requiring a bump-start for 2 of those three to get me home. This thread is going to serve as my record of solutions and symptoms.
The situation: Going for a nice hour-long break-in ride to get some miles on it. Varying throttle input and RPM between 4-7.5k and using lots of engine braking. The oil and filter were changed before I picked it up from the dealer for the summer(allegedly), and the oil looked clean and was at the correct level. New battery was also installed by the dealer, Yuasa YTX14-BS 200CCA. Temp gauge went up to 6 bars and stayed there the whole time. This was my second ride after bringing it home, and the ride home and first ride went perfectly with no issues. Fired up fine for the second ride.
First Issue: Pulled over to a side street on country roads to check directions. Let the bike idle for maybe 15 seconds before turning off(with the key, not the kill-switch). After confirming directions, I turned the key and let the fuel pump prime as usual, press the starter, and all of a sudden it was turning over as if the battery was weak. Chug-Chug-Chug-rewwww. It would automatically quit cranking no matter how long I held the starter. I wasn't sure what to do at that point, thought maybe heat was the issue, but figured I could bump-start it from the hill further up the street. Flash-forward to me getting it pretty much up the hill: I give the starter one more go before bump-starting, and it fires right up like nothing happened! Go figure. Start my ride home.
Second Issue: Same ride as first issue. Pulled up to stoplight getting close to home, bike's idle drops to around 1000 or a little less(less than it should be), and then quits. I was in 1st with the clutch pulled in at a stop when this happened. Try to restart it quick before the light changes and it cranks over as it should, but doesn't fire. At all. Just keeps cranking. So I push it over to the sidewalk to wait for it to cool down. After waiting about 10 minutes, still won't fire with the starter. Push it over to a neighborhood nearby with a hill, manage to bump start it and continue my ride home.
At this point, I know something is up, so I keep the throttle cracked at all times from now on. I decided to experiment a bit and it still died anytime I let the throttle close completely. At this point, I was low on fuel with only 2 bars left an the fuel light on, so maybe tank vaccuum was the issue? I still need to check if the lines are clogged, but I can't imagine they would be since it's basically brand new?
Stopped to get gas and it wouldn't start up after filling up either, had to bump start it again. The as soon as I let off the throttle after getting into my driveway, it dies just like it did before.
After searching and reading as many relevant threads as I can on Hot Start and Idle issues, I decided I'm going to focus on the battery right now, as it seems to be the cheapest possible battery that the dealer could've put in, though it seems to be 50/50 between Yuasa and Shorai for what forum-posters prefer. That said, this particular battery is only 200CCA, which seems to be less common than the 240CCA model.
The battery tested fine at the local O'Reilly Auto, but I'm going to test it myself with a multimeter and post the results here. If it checks out fine, my next stop will be investigating the Idle Stepper Motor and then the TPS. I'll also being changing the oil since I'm sure it's full of crap from break-in already.
Just went out to check the mileage and figured I'd try to start it. No dice, didn't really sound even close to starting. I think this battery may just be toast from all the cranking I had to do. Will report back after charging it.
Mileage as of this post: 122
Thanks for your time. Hopefully I can get this figured out sooner rather than later, as I really like the 100 miles I put on it before these issues popped up.
One other question: Are there any Service Bulletins I should be aware of? I keep reading about R/R issues(though mainly on earlier model years), do I need to get mine checked out? Just wondering how many issues Triumph managed to iron out by 2013 on this motor/chassis.
I recently picked up a 2013 Speed Triple with only 14 miles on it! It's a beast, and maybe the issues I'm having are only due to being in the break-in period, but I've sort of lost my faith in it since it died 3 times on my during my last ride, requiring a bump-start for 2 of those three to get me home. This thread is going to serve as my record of solutions and symptoms.
The situation: Going for a nice hour-long break-in ride to get some miles on it. Varying throttle input and RPM between 4-7.5k and using lots of engine braking. The oil and filter were changed before I picked it up from the dealer for the summer(allegedly), and the oil looked clean and was at the correct level. New battery was also installed by the dealer, Yuasa YTX14-BS 200CCA. Temp gauge went up to 6 bars and stayed there the whole time. This was my second ride after bringing it home, and the ride home and first ride went perfectly with no issues. Fired up fine for the second ride.
First Issue: Pulled over to a side street on country roads to check directions. Let the bike idle for maybe 15 seconds before turning off(with the key, not the kill-switch). After confirming directions, I turned the key and let the fuel pump prime as usual, press the starter, and all of a sudden it was turning over as if the battery was weak. Chug-Chug-Chug-rewwww. It would automatically quit cranking no matter how long I held the starter. I wasn't sure what to do at that point, thought maybe heat was the issue, but figured I could bump-start it from the hill further up the street. Flash-forward to me getting it pretty much up the hill: I give the starter one more go before bump-starting, and it fires right up like nothing happened! Go figure. Start my ride home.
Second Issue: Same ride as first issue. Pulled up to stoplight getting close to home, bike's idle drops to around 1000 or a little less(less than it should be), and then quits. I was in 1st with the clutch pulled in at a stop when this happened. Try to restart it quick before the light changes and it cranks over as it should, but doesn't fire. At all. Just keeps cranking. So I push it over to the sidewalk to wait for it to cool down. After waiting about 10 minutes, still won't fire with the starter. Push it over to a neighborhood nearby with a hill, manage to bump start it and continue my ride home.
At this point, I know something is up, so I keep the throttle cracked at all times from now on. I decided to experiment a bit and it still died anytime I let the throttle close completely. At this point, I was low on fuel with only 2 bars left an the fuel light on, so maybe tank vaccuum was the issue? I still need to check if the lines are clogged, but I can't imagine they would be since it's basically brand new?
Stopped to get gas and it wouldn't start up after filling up either, had to bump start it again. The as soon as I let off the throttle after getting into my driveway, it dies just like it did before.
After searching and reading as many relevant threads as I can on Hot Start and Idle issues, I decided I'm going to focus on the battery right now, as it seems to be the cheapest possible battery that the dealer could've put in, though it seems to be 50/50 between Yuasa and Shorai for what forum-posters prefer. That said, this particular battery is only 200CCA, which seems to be less common than the 240CCA model.
The battery tested fine at the local O'Reilly Auto, but I'm going to test it myself with a multimeter and post the results here. If it checks out fine, my next stop will be investigating the Idle Stepper Motor and then the TPS. I'll also being changing the oil since I'm sure it's full of crap from break-in already.
Just went out to check the mileage and figured I'd try to start it. No dice, didn't really sound even close to starting. I think this battery may just be toast from all the cranking I had to do. Will report back after charging it.
Mileage as of this post: 122
Thanks for your time. Hopefully I can get this figured out sooner rather than later, as I really like the 100 miles I put on it before these issues popped up.
One other question: Are there any Service Bulletins I should be aware of? I keep reading about R/R issues(though mainly on earlier model years), do I need to get mine checked out? Just wondering how many issues Triumph managed to iron out by 2013 on this motor/chassis.