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    The "Friends" of Officer Frank Poncherello Joe Houle's Avatar
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    to me it just sounds like your riding style and suspension settings. The bike will be the most stable under power. Finish all your braking while the bike is fully upright and get back on the power prior to turning in. Braking while leaned, then chopping open the throttle are the best ways I know to wash out the front or bring the back around..

    I would also caution against aggressive engine braking without rev-matching. You can easily shear teeth off of the cam chain tensioner
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    A friend of my owned a 2005 speed (we change bike sometimes) doesn't have it, so there most be something.
    We tried his mapping (dyno adjusted mapping) in my speed but it was so lean in low rpm that my bike started to misfire etc, really crap. Choping the throttle under lean angle must always be done carefully ofcourse and that's why this keeps a big pain in the ass with this bike. Have driven about 25k miles on it, never happy about this behaviour...

    My speed has a Wilbers fully adjustable rear shock and front suspension springs for my weight, low friction seals to prevent stickslip.
    That's perfectly fine.

    Trailbraking (what they call braking into the corner) is a common use especially on the track.
    So I don't see any problem in this riding style?

    By fast back shifting I blip the throttle, preventing the rear tire to slip.
    But thanks for the tip, I will keep it in mind because of the quickshifter.

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    Check your chain. I bet it's too tight. These bikes with the single sided swing arm need the chain much looser than other bikes. The book says 35-40mm. 40mm is probably closer to ideal. If it's too tight it'll jack the rear end around no end.
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    '05 tunes are not compatible with any other year, so thats that. I would just go back through the basics. Throttle body balance, plugs/coils, etc. Also as Crash stated, they are very sensitive to chain tension. If it's too tight, the swing arm will not properly cycle through its range of motion. If you adjust it and worry that it's a little too loose, then it's probably spot on. Sorry I can't be of more help
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    I may be way off here, but check your front sprocket nut. Some have been known to loosen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crashmasterd View Post
    Check your chain. I bet it's too tight. These bikes with the single sided swing arm need the chain much looser than other bikes. The book says 35-40mm. 40mm is probably closer to ideal. If it's too tight it'll jack the rear end around no end.
    I'm sorry I have to say you're wrong.
    Clearance is 40mm without force, 45 with some force. It could be set slightly tighter but like you say it need pretty mutch clearance.

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    @ 2doggs: Will check that this evening.
    Mine was also loose a couple of times in the past.
    About 3500miles ago I've had the engine out for leaking cylinder bushing and mounted the nut with red loctite so I we'll see..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Houle View Post
    '05 tunes are not compatible with any other year, so thats that. I would just go back through the basics. Throttle body balance, plugs/coils, etc. Also as Crash stated, they are very sensitive to chain tension. If it's too tight, the swing arm will not properly cycle through its range of motion. If you adjust it and worry that it's a little too loose, then it's probably spot on. Sorry I can't be of more help
    05 tunes not compatible with other years? What do you mean?
    05-06 is both 1050, keihin ecu and in the range under frame number 28****
    Mine is a 25**** btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwinko View Post
    05 tunes not compatible with other years? What do you mean?
    05-06 is both 1050, keihin ecu and in the range under frame number 28****
    Mine is a 25**** btw
    ok. It's weird that your bike ran so poorly with that compatible tune then...
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    I think she likes gasoline A LOT!

    Something is shooting on my mind at this moment, I replaced the fuel filter 2 years ago and noticed a little bit of rust on the fuel pump and regulator. Possibly the fuel pressure isn't straight all the time or a little bit on the low side? Let see if there is a good fuel pump for reasonable price on the web..

    By telling that I remember the flash from my friend went wrong in some kind of way and even with my old map the bike ran like shit.
    Thought I had some bad fuel in the tank so replaced the filter en made a nice fire from that fuel
    Just after shooting in the original tune the bike ran good again. Very strange...
    After that I've experimenting again with his tune.

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    what were your previous bikes? 4cyl?
    I believe you are odds with the natural characteristics of a stroked, torquey motor.

    The effect of engine braking increase as the RPMs drop on decel, and I realize what you are describing now. You just have to keep the revs up.
    She pulls as soon as you open her up. If you are braking into a turn, leaning in, then coming off the brakes and back onto the throttle, you are kinda dilusional if you think she isn't going to snarl at you. You have to touch her how she likes to be touched. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I strongly suggest you open the throttle and settle the bike prior to turn in and let her pull through the turn. If you are doing it right, she should exit smooth, strong, and give a little headshake to let you know she wants her hair pulled
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