Big Daytona Speculation

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kuhlka

Discussion Starter · Oct 11, 2006

Every Triumph-related forum should have at least one obligatory 'Big Daytona Speculation' thread contemplating what the next big Daytona will be like so here it is!

The latest Cycle World says the team who helped design the 07 1050 Tiger is the same crew who were working on the 'Busa Killer' project... Could Triumph possibly have some terribly evil monster sitting in Hinkley just waiting to be unleashed in a few years? Perhaps a big bore version of the 675, say a 1350? Imagine having that much more displacement on the existing S3, except with a Daytona cam profile and Devious' tuning... I'd bet it'd easily get over 100ft lbs at the rear wheel and 160+rwhp with mild tuning.

Then, they could have a 1050 as their main litre sport bike by doing some racy tuning to the existing S3 motor.

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G

· #2 · Oct 11, 2006

The 'Busa Killer was reported on several forums a couple of years ago. Suposedly a 1300cc 4-cylinder project that was shelved in 2003. I also heard from one of the project developers that the 200 mph mark was never reached during development of the prototypes.

From an old press release:
"After investing more than 4M pounds in development, Triumph motorcycles has decided not to produce a bike to compete with the Hayabusa and ZX12R.

Six of the seven prototypes have been crushed, and the remaiing one is off to the company museum.

Declining markets for "hyper sports" was cited as the primary reason."

As far as I know, the project has yet to be reborn. The reference in Cycle World seemed to show that the crew was reasigned to the new 1050 Tiger project.

We can always keep our fingers crossed though!

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racecomp

· #3 · Oct 11, 2006

The 02 on triple motor is a copy of a Busa take a close look and see, it’s just missing a cylinder.

I have got more than 160 RWBHP and a shitloads more than 100 ft-lb of torque already!!!!! Ahhh it’s a turbo bike sorry………

G

· #4 · Oct 11, 2006

The bore/stroke for the Busa is 81mm/63mm.
The Daytona 955i is 79mm/65mm.
The 1050i engine is 79mm/71.4mm.
The Triumph combustion chamber and ports are different as well. The blocks differences are fairly significant.

I will agree that the Triumph parts do bear a family resemblance to the Suzuki ones. It is almost as if Triumph modeled their stuff on the earlier GSXR engines.

I have heard rumors that Triumph has at least one former Suzuki engineer employed at their facility.

ShrunkenHead

· #5 · Oct 12, 2006

Devious said:
I will agree that the Triumph parts do bear a family resemblance to the Suzuki ones. It is almost as if Triumph modeled their stuff on the earlier GSXR engines.

I have heard rumors that Triumph has at least one former Suzuki engineer employed at their facility.

that's the worst thing I've ever heard! my confidence in my motor has dropped in half just hearing that. I can only hope triumph sat there looking at a suzuki motor and thought "ok, so how do we make this thing reliable?"

G

· #6 · Oct 12, 2006

Actually, If you check around the Triumph stuff IS pretty reliable.
Many Triumph riders tend to put a lot of miles on their bikes before trading up to the next bike.

kuhlka

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 13, 2006

The only reason I'd buy another bike is if mine blows up, gets wrecked, or its a very different bike for a whole other type of riding. IE-675 track bike or a KTM supermoto.

G

· #8 · Dec 23, 2010

opcorn:

G

· #9 · Dec 24, 2010

kuhlka said:
Then, they could have a 1050 as their main litre sport bike by doing some racy tuning to the existing S3 motor.

:sign5:

protege83

· #10 · Dec 24, 2010

They make a 1050?!?

shawn1s

· #11 · Dec 26, 2010

was talking with Sharer Cycle in WI the guy said that some one got a spy vid of a 1200cc tiger looking bike guess its on youtube but havent looked

maybe if thats the case then we might be in the running of a larger S3... besides most factory naked bikes are upping displacements

BUCKET

· #12 · Dec 27, 2010

Wile-Boar said:
They make a 1050?!?

What Mattchew said.

duke63

· #13 · Dec 27, 2010

1200CC Tiger vid.

Looks like it has a single side swingarm.

[video=youtube;BFaBPvG-rXs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFaBPvG-rXs[/video]

bobww

· #14 · Dec 27, 2010

Fall of 2011 or 2012 for new big motor bikes? The new big Tiger and Trophy bikes should lead the way for a new "Tona" and/or Speedy offering too. After all the recent work on the big twin and the 800 I wonder how the time line/available R+D resources ($) will work out for this platform?

:drink:

opcorn:

shawn1s

· #15 · Dec 29, 2010

forget the bigger motor

RACECOMP get up to Hinkley and show them tea sippers how to turbo this thing :beer:

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