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Hey guys,

Unfortunately I am brought here by my new (to me) speedy being sick. I brought up the issue at another forum and have not gotten as many "technically merited" answers as I would like. Another member noticed and referred me to this site for help.


A little about me, I am a student at Santa Barbara City College getting my ge credits together, and as for riding got the s3 a month ago as a replacement for my ducati 900ss that was a bit much for a day to day bike. The triple is my only means of transportation, so i ride it rain or shine, and have put about 2k miles on it so far, and short of the current motor issues it has been trouble free. Also I prefer the term "suburban hooligan" to :squid: If anyone else is in the SB area let me know as I have seen a few s3s around and would love to go for a ride, all my friends with 600s are boring the hell out of me haha.
 
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Devious2xs said:
Welcome! :wave:

So, what is the problem?
Well hopefully I can figure it out with some time searching, but Its a huge power loss, running rough, very hard to start, smells incredibly rich, and wether or not it is related a lot of valve chatter as well (though I have herad it is normal).

I would take it to a dealer as it is an 06 that is still under warranty, however the 2 closest dealers are 200 and 300 miles away. it has just over 6k miles and already had its 6k service done at 4500 miles.

Tomorrow I am taking it to my aunt and uncles house and am going to pull the tank, check out the airbox, plugs, and while i'm at it pop off the cam cover and see if there is anything scary going on under there.
 

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How many miles?
When was the last time it had new spark plugs?

One of the design flaws of this engine is that the coil boots do not seal the plug wells. As a result, the plugs can get a bit rusty and lose their ground, causing miss-fires and flooding.

This may not be the problem, but it would be the first place I would start.
 

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BCade - not in SB, more like the LBC but there are some rides coming up in the near future and I am always game for a spin up the coast - of course I'll be bent if I get there and the surf is firing! Perhaps you can give a tour of some of the roads up that way.

Hope you get your issue solved quickly
 

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Welcome! :wave:

Glad to see you made it over here safe!

Listen to devious, he is our guru.... :drink:

Best of luck!
 
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Devious2xs said:
How many miles?
When was the last time it had new spark plugs?

One of the design flaws of this engine is that the coil boots do not seal the plug wells. As a result, the plugs can get a bit rusty and lose their ground, causing miss-fires and flooding.

This may not be the problem, but it would be the first place I would start.
I assume the plugs are origional as the bike only has 6k on it.

Biff, I moved down here a few months ago from the bay area so I don't know the roads all that well, (I get lost a lot) definately nothing like I was used to in the bay.
 

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1 - Pull the plugs and replace them.
2 - Check the hoses on the throttle body and MAP sensor on the bottom of the fuel tank.
3 - Report back.
 

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IF you are not handy with tools, it would be fairly easy to take you through what is required to do this with a few simple hand tools.

If the dealer is a long distance away, getting familiar with the simple jobs of maintaining your bike would be a good idea.
 

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I think he had said he's not a big stranger to engines, but lacked tools... It was "over there" someplace.

Thanks gawd he got pointed in the right direction....... ;)
 
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Devious2xs said:
IF you are not handy with tools, it would be fairly easy to take you through what is required to do this with a few simple hand tools.

If the dealer is a long distance away, getting familiar with the simple jobs of maintaining your bike would be a good idea.
Haha I forgot to mention ive built a half dozen engines (pushrod v8s but nonetheless) And built a few hot rods, so aside from ohc specific things I have done everything there is to do on a vehicle. Unfortunately I have to drive across town to my aunt and uncles to do any work as my appt managment won't let me do anything here, plus i only have very basic hand tools.

Here are a few pics of my last project since this is still an introductory post I guess its not too off topic.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5576/dscn1372fc7.jpg
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Devious2xs said:
Nice early 'maro with LS!
Tell me about the engine.
The engine is fairly standard, 346 ls1, cam, hardened pushrods, ti retainers, beehive springs, rod bolts, custom long tubes, ls6 intake, and ported throttle body. With a tune worth a little north of 400rwhp bolted up to a t56.

The car is the more impressive bit, 68 Camaro absolutely everything gone through the only thing stock on it was the body, corvette irs, c6 wheels, and c6zo6 6 piston 14" front brakes etc etc etc. Took 2 and a half years of work every day and more money than you would think a kid could get his hands on haha.

Oh and a month after it was finished I sold it... Gotta finish school, then ill build a better version, and the bikes are a good distraction.
 

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welcome to the nuthouse! :tongue2: Glad you could join us, and believe me, Devi will help git ya sorted. He's been thru this about 700 times with all the rest of us. :horse: ;D
 

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Anyone who can put a late drivetrain in a first gen Camaro, can handle maintaining their own bike - and a good bit more.

For removing the tank, you need Allen wrenches.
To remove the air box you need a wrench.
Tor replace the spark plugs, you will need a plug socket, a ratchet, and either a wobble or a flex extension (for the left hand plug).
This is easy, and more than likely your problem.
 
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Well Today I pulled everything, the plugs looked perfectly normal, I just cleaned them up and threw them back in, clened the connectors between them and the coils.

The 2 thinigs that had stood out was, the vent line that goes from what I assume is an evap cannister was disconnected, so I put it back on, and one of the couplers between the airbox and throttle body had its retaining spring only partially on, so I could have had a leak there. Also the air filter was pretty gross, nothing insane but Ill be replacing it soon.

So after thinking I had found and fixed the ailment I went for a ride...

There was signifigant lessening in overall engine noise, however the sound of either a ticking valve or a tiny exhaust leak is still present. The power is WAY better off the line, however I would say it is still only producing 2/3 the power it used to, if that.

Now I am really pissed, I was really hoping to find something obvious wether or not I could fix it atleast I would know what is going on...


If it were throwing codes would a light be coming on, and does it use an obd2 or some funky triumph diagnostic?

Whats worse is i'm living on a fixed income (don't ask) and have my savings tied up in bonds (I had assumed I wouldn't have unnexpected maintenence costs on a bike with a warranty) so if I take it to a shop and have a big ass bill it means I won't be able to eat and what not.



So if anyone wants a good deal on an 06 black s3 with just over 6k miles on it let me know :smiley-asskiss: It is still under warranty but unfortunately finals are coming up and I am way too busy to not have it for a day, let alone spending a few days out of the week riding either to la or the bay area to get it looked at.
 
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