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is the manual correct in saying that you need to screw the oil plug all the way in to get the correct reading for your oil level? mine came from factory with too much in it when measured this way, and now i changed the oil and filter and it only took 3 quarts to get to this level when measuring that way..
what kind of oil do you guys recommend. i got the mobil synthetic racing oil from the dealership, but it seems my engine is a little noisier with it. and now i have a slight spark knock at certain rpm, but i don't really see how the oil could have anything to do with that.
what do you folks think?
 

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It's true you need to check your oil with the dipstick fully screwed in, however my guess is that you're a quart low. Any Speed Triple for sure requires 4 full quarts of oil with a new filter. If you only put in 3 then you are a quart low no matter what the dipstick says.

Low oil level can make these bikes make noise that sounds remarkable like pinging. When my bike gets close to oil change time it starts making that noise. I change the oil and it goes away. Scared the crap out of me the first time it happened.
 

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crashmasterd said:
Low oil level can make these bikes make noise that sounds remarkable like pinging. When my bike gets close to oil change time it starts making that noise. I change the oil and it goes away. Scared the crap out of me the first time it happened.
My money is on your oil just being done, not low, when the noisiness starts. I have always put in exactly the same amount that came out, when doing a change without a filter, and have noticed the same. Fresh oil in the engine and it is noticeably quieter. Even more so if the oil is 15W50 instead of 10W40.
 

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crashmasterd said:
Low oil level can make these bikes make noise that sounds remarkable like pinging.
Detonation has a very distinctive sound. It is like shaking some marbles in a glass jar. You cannot mistake that. I doubt low oil level would sound anything like it.
 

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Oil capacity (from the manual):

Oil Capacity (dry fill) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.50 litres
Oil Capacity (wet fill including filter) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.20 litres
Oil Capacity (wet fill excluding filter) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.00 litres


Checked with the dipstick screwed all the way in, with bike vertical (not on kickstand).
 

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what is interesting is that the 1050 model has been delivered with three different type oil coolers.

mine has big one(10 rows), then there is smaller 5 row desing. But there is also pictures in the net, where 1050 has 955 style cooler on the side.

What is boils down is that 10 row cooler is huge and it's mounted up side down. The oil from that cooler drains to the sump when the engine has been stopped for a long time. This may give impression of high oil level, even thou it drops after the engine has been started.

this why you should not measure the oil from bike, when it has not been used.

Start the bike, let if run for a while, stop it, wait for little time for the oil to settle and measure it.

at least this is how I do it.

JakeT.
 

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Jaket said:
what is interesting is that the 1050 model has been delivered with three different type oil coolers.

mine has big one(10 rows), then there is smaller 5 row desing. But there is also pictures in the net, where 1050 has 955 style cooler on the side.

What is boils down is that 10 row cooler is huge and it's mounted up side down. The oil from that cooler drains to the sump when the engine has been stopped for a long time. This may give impression of high oil level, even thou it drops after the engine has been started.

this why you should not measure the oil from bike, when it has not been used.

Start the bike, let if run for a while, stop it, wait for little time for the oil to settle and measure it.

at least this is how I do it.

JakeT.
The 955 style cooler is the test 05 model. Not for sale just for pics.

The large cooler is the 2005 model and the smaller is the from 2006 model. This is not exact science but a rough guideline.
 
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+1 on that. Get the oil level t where it's supposed to be. Then start it up and let it run for a couple of minutes. Turn off. let it sit for a couple of minutes and then re-check and I bet you'll need to top off more.
 

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Mine is an '06, and has the big oil cooler. And I doubt it drains back to the sump, because no air can get in to allow it to drain.
 

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The oil cooler, while "big" from the standpoint of the space it takes up, holds a minuscule volume of oil - certainly not enough to throw your sump oil level measurement from "high" to "low." The actual volume of oil held by even the big cooler is probably no more than 8 oz, or 1/4 qt max. The drop in oil level after an oil change mostly comes from the filter volume, which is more like 12-16 oz.

The manual states that oil level should be measured at operating temp, which would imply that the bike has been running and the galleries are all filled with oil, the pump cavity is full, and the filter and cooler are full.
 

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OK.

Who would pay how much for a side cover with a window in the appropriate place?

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