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"The PB TT 2007: Performance nakeds", a four bike track test on PB test track. You guessed it; Speedy came last, after #3 Monster S4RS, #2 SDuke 990 and #1 Tuono Factory.

S3 did not make it because of: lack of power & ground clearance, fading brakes and rear suspension that ends up "in a pickle" on a track. They also acknowledged that Triple was out of it's league with the more expensive rivals with "akin to entering a Labrador guide dog to a cage fight" and "outclassed in this company".

Second, unrelated, test on the same mag is the annual 1 mile dragrace of 14 mismatched bikes. New Tiger was #12 of 14 and 1050 Triple was #11. Both behind granpa rides like 1250 Bandit, 1990 GSX-R 750, a few new sporty 600s etc.

Poor old Speedy. :'(
 

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Performance/looks per $$? S3 wins everytime, hands down. Its funny, but Performance Bikes was drooling all over the speedy a year or two ago. As far as the performance nakeds test, the other bikes included are at a higher price point. They come with better suspension, brakes etc. Test it in like company (ie: Kawi Z1000, whatever monster is at $10,000 or less, and any other naked bike for less than 10k), and it will shine. That test is like including a kawi ZZR600 or a CBR600F4i in a supersports test, different bikes at different prices. Now give me an S3 and the $5000 difference in price to play with, and I would have an S3 that would win that comparo hands down, and insurance would be cheaper to boot. Fuck 'em!
 

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Performance/looks per $$? S3 wins everytime, hands down. Its funny, but Performance Bikes was drooling all over the speedy a year or two ago. As far as the performance nakeds test, the other bikes included are at a higher price point. They come with better suspension, brakes etc. Test it in like company (ie: Kawi Z1000, whatever monster is at $10,000 or less, and any other naked bike for less than 10k), and it will shine. That test is like including a kawi ZZR600 or a CBR600F4i in a supersports test, different bikes at different prices. Now give me an S3 and the $5000 difference in price to play with, and I would have an S3 that would win that comparo hands down, and insurance would be cheaper to boot. Fuck 'em!

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StuckInKansas said:
Performance/looks per $$? S3 wins everytime, hands down. Its funny, but Performance Bikes was drooling all over the speedy a year or two ago. As far as the performance nakeds test, the other bikes included are at a higher price point. They come with better suspension, brakes etc. Test it in like company (ie: Kawi Z1000, whatever monster is at $10,000 or less, and any other naked bike for less than 10k), and it will shine. That test is like including a kawi ZZR600 or a CBR600F4i in a supersports test, different bikes at different prices. Now give me an S3 and the $5000 difference in price to play with, and I would have an S3 that would win that comparo hands down, and insurance would be cheaper to boot. Fuck 'em!
SO what WOULD you do with 5k? It might be an interesting thread to start.... :)
 

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WHAT?!!! Speedy isn't a great track bike? ROTFLMAO! :laugh:


$5k in mods? let's see.
Ohlins rear, Traxxion front.
Durrani wheels, Braking wave rotors, light 520 chain and sprockets.
Lots of cheap engine mods, header, exhaust half system, and tuning, head work, etc.

Custom paint.


OH, that is exactly what I HAVE done.
 

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Yeah, lets call up Performance Bikes and tell them to use Devious' bike for the comparo!

Perhaps if Triumph would make an S-model version of the 1050 rather than the 'carbon fiber with arrow exhaust' special edition, it'd still be smacking down the competition. I'd really like to see a BEAUTIFUL, carbon fiber'd and raced up version of the Speed Triple in a factory model to compete with the S4Rs at around $14-15k. It'll probably never happen though and I'll just have to wait for the next big Daytona before I swap out bikes.
 

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"akin to entering a Labrador guide dog to a cage fight" and "outclassed in this company".

:finger: i always feel like i am riding an angry pitbull! how bout the rest of ya?...i'd like to drop a 12 o clock wheelie on that fuckers head! :violent1: fuck class...speedy riders are hooligans damit! we come to drink your beer and have our way with your women! :devil:
 

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I have to agree on the PB people on the first comparison. The other bikes are much sharper when it comes to the handling department + brakes.

I am still a bit puzzled about the dragrace, though. Losing to the smaller version of "flying brick" Gixxer from 1990 and 600 sportys. How did that one happen, even with Triple's relatively tall stock gearing? Triple has more torque and cc. It should fly off the line, when compared to the tupperware bikes which are not exactly geared for fast takeoffs.

There were no graphs to show did the S3 even get ahead at the start, before aerodynamics came into play.
 

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Triumph needs more bad press about the brakes, so I think this is great. Maybe that will teach them.
 

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I wanted a unique and affordable street bike. Got just what I wanted/paid for. You have to look at the total package. Kind of like a woman, sure there are others I want to ride, but had to pick just one to park in the garage every night. :)
 

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"My Speedy, my Speedy, my Speedy's OK!!"

screw what Performance Bike says...they're all a bunch of flacid wankers that think data charted in color graphs describe motorcycles. Could they miss the point any further...?

sorry....that was a worthless post, one of my better ones actually. I'm still pissed at the world on a general basis. Plus living in Dallas SUX.
 

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the nurburgring is very fast track. suitable for 1000cc sportbikes. not really a naked bike test ground.

by the way the track specialist driving the bikes was liking the triumph alot. most problems where ground clearance(it was cratching the belly pan, why it even had one?). little down on power compared to tuono. well that can be solved even with tors silencers you are 5hp closer. and you have to consider the triumph it tuned for torque, when tuono is same streetbike engine as mille.

one point was brakes, Ducati S4R has brembo radials which where praised. Triumph brakes initial high performance was lost when they heated up.

JT

oh yeah I bought the magazine...
 

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The nurburgring has about every surface and turn you'd expect to encounter both on the track and street. Aside from the really long straights, It'd still be a good test ground for naked bikes.

The question I'd like them to answer is why are they testing a street bike on the track? The Speed Triple is set up for street riding, whereas the $15k range bikes tend to have a full ohlins kit and be more race tuned and tight. Kind of retarded to only do the testing on a track. It would make more sense to take those bikes to Deal's Gap and the Cherohola in NC/TN.
 

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I don't read that mag much, I like Bike, they're a little more street oriented it seems. Speedy did really good with their test. Still lost to the Tuono, but they did acknowledge that the Tuono is based off a race bike and the Speedy is purpose built for the street.
 

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I'd trade for a Tuono, but our dealer here is sold out.

Oh... wait... he has a USED '07. Already. And if you think it's fun waiting on parts for a Ducati, you're gonna LOVE Aprillia :eboy:

Maybe I'll just go steal whatsisname's B-King. :poop:
 

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I'd like to see one of these mags to a real-world comparison. How 'bout starting from, say, Washington, DC and running to Jim's Philly Cheesesteak in Philadelphia, starting at 4 PM? Or running from the center of the City in London, and running up to Liverpool?

In my mind, a naked bike is designed for city traffic - high riding position to see over and around cars, short wheelbase and quick steering for manuevering, lots of low-end punch for stop-and-go. Being competent on the highway and in the twisties is an added benefit, but not the core function of a naked.

I'd like to see how these riders like spending hours in the saddle, sometimes sitting in traffic, and then tell the reader that the S3 is their last choice for a naked bike. I'd like to see someone with a 1098 try a ride like that.
 
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