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Is the S3 prone to the rear wheel breaking loose under power,and if the throttle is shut down it spits you off???...or more prone to do it??? :police:
 

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I'm not sure what you are asking.

Unless the roads and tires are cold, I have to intentionally try to break the tire loose under power. Others may have different results.
 

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Sorry,it`s a stupid question.
I just havn`t had a chance to ride my new bike and I`m running all this crap through my mind because with the crap weather it will probably be another week to ride.I`m getting antzy to ride and know I have to get use to the new bike instead of railing on it right away. :violent1:
 

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The rear tire slips under full acceleration if the road surface is wet and/or cold. The same happens when you're braking heavily with the motor.
 

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If I understand, it's not a stupid question.

The S3 has a good bit more compression breaking than many bikes, but not nearly as much as hitting the brakes hard.

Take your time, and get used to the bike. Have fun, and stay safe.
 

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I agree with Devi you have to try to break loose - once the tyre's hot and the road is reasonable nick.

I just did a weekend away in the twisties, and gradually got more and more comfortable opening the throttle further while coming out of the corner and still being cranked over (well as you lift her up actually to keep things smooth). The ONLY time speedy let loose was if I hit some gravel in the corner. This is with the Conti Road Attack, sports touring tyre, not an all out sports tyre.
 

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the speedy wont break out on you unless you really push it.. or try it in the wrong area of the revs..

a 600rr? or and R6/R1 ya that will break loose out of a turn No Problem... saw it happen twice last year at LRRS.

part of the reason I chose an S3 "real world" power band. take it easy, enjoy the ride, feel her out.. she gives plenty of feedback, just listen to her and go slow!
 

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The S3 is a very stable and easy motorcycle to control if you ramp things up progressively.
Don't worry so much. The bad weather just has you trapped inside with too much time on your hands to over-think things. Bad things (like tires breaking loose) can happen to anyone at anytime, but if you ride in control and take it easy getting to know your ride, you'll be fine.
Ride Safe.
-CT
 

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I owned a `98 TL1000.
That was a NASTY bastard, :mad: and tried to spit me off regularly.
The Suzuki FI was still in it`s fledgling stages and the engine became instant on/instant off power.That`s why you can see logos of the TL as a bronco busting bull .It finally got me at Pocono on a track day.
 
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I owned a `98 TL1000.
That was a NASTY bastard, :mad: and tried to spit me off regularly.
The Suzuki FI was still in it`s fledgling stages and the engine became instant on/instant off power.That`s why you can see logos of the TL as a bronco busting bull .It finally got me at Pocono on a track day.
I used to love how the TL's looked, was gonna get one but everywhere i searched for info i read what you just typed. Wouldnt have been a good second bike for me. Happy i got speedy!
 

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Once I was riding on a wet road and it was about 12celsius degrees cold. I was riding about 80km/h and opened full throttle around 7000rpm. The wheel was spinning all right :smitty:
 
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Come to think of it, i managed to get wheelspin (not to the point of losing control) in dry conditions taking off hard in 1st gear. One wouldnt open throttle this hard in a corner. Note, it was nippy weather and tires werent really getting warm.
 

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It is all about throttle control.
Did anybody see the MotoGP race where they were showing Casey Stoner and Valentino`s throttle control compared to each other.
They had a graph of both throttle and breaking.Stoner was wide open,then all the way off,then wide open again.Valentino was smoooooooth on ,smoooooooth off.
Stoner won that race,but all those wins and championships don`t lie.
That little graphic alone reminded me plenty of how it should be done.

No slight on Casey though.He`s an amazing rider also.
 

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It seems to be the consensus that this is what caused my last crash. Cold tires + too much throttle + cold road surface + newish tires. It all happened in an instant and I was rolling down the road.

It's not the problem child the TL is, or some of the other's mentioned, but do look out for that.
 

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It seems to be the consensus that this is what caused my last crash. Cold tires + too much throttle + cold road surface + newish tires. It all happened in an instant and I was rolling down the road.
Crash's crash is what prompted me to get sliders for Speedy. Smooth and steady on cold tires/cold road.

If you put a lot of miles on your bike, you'll have opportunities to try many different tires for the rear. The stock Michelins are good, but I didn't like the wear life. I went with Dunlop D208. Limey is running Metzeler. Dirt Mcgirt is running 2CT Pilot Powers.
Ruscook posted he's using Conti's Sport/Touring tire. Once warmed up well, any of the sport tires will be very hard to break loose.
 

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Like most everyone's pointed out smoothness is the key. If you whack it in a corner, you'll spin. I think JRussell can slide it out through the turns. Being able to spin and slide just enough like that is a sign of a rider with excellent throttle control. But if you're riding like that on the street you're pushing too hard.
 

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Jruss can do a lot of shit with his bike that most of us can't (or won't) do, props to russ's sick skills, also corners but, I've had the tire do a lil' sliding goosin' it coming outta a parking lot at school, luckily no damage and no one knew I fucked up. I'm just a sucker for hot doggin it for the ladies
 
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