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Jpip or anybody know how a warning ticket works? I know I don't have to worry about it, but I always wonder if your name is flagged or something like that if you get pulled over again in the near future. I'm wondering for how long I need to play it cool. 8)
I got pulled over last night for 59 in a 35 :finger: but talked my way out of it. Just crested a hill and there he was. I can usually get away with a warning or less, but don't want to push my luck if I'm "flagged" in some sort of way.
Also Jpip what do you think is the best way to talk your way out of it? I just try to be respectful yet personable. :smiley-asskiss: Try to make myself a person and not a number as much as possible. Always make sure they see the military ID too. Any helpful hints?

Fookin speedy is gonna make a poor man of me yet! :smitty:
 

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yer screwed! :devil: Nah, a warining ticket ain't nut'n. Back when I 1st got out of high school, I got a warning ticket fer running 90mph in a 45mph in my 94 Camaro. ;D I said that's cool, see ya! :smitty: ;D
 

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Wow you got quite the warning. 24 over is about $223 here, not to mention insurance rates. Your Military ID probably got you out of the ticket, I don't write cops, their family members or military personel. I also don't write many bikers either, 1%er's get fucked with as often as possible, but there's not many here. It's hard to say what works when trying to talk your way out of a ticket. I'll share my thoughts and general decision making processes when I issue tickets or warnings.

Typically anybody 15 and over gets a Ticket. Excluding the above. I don't have a quota, but I'm expected to write 10 tickets a day, as far as my Chief is concerned, a written warning is as good as a ticket to him, so 60% of my stops are warnings. If I write a ticket or warning with several violations on it, I get credit for each violation on the citation/warning. So I'm a big fan of shitty cars. I can usually get 3 violations a stop out of it. What I'll do is stop for the speeding, find any other violations, (seatbelt, faulty equipment ect..) Warn for the most costly violation, and give a fix-it ticket for the equipment stuff. That way i stay out of traffic court and get my expectation filled fast.
Now on the 15 and over's, I still give them tickets, but I sell them to stay out of court. If I get someone at 15 over I write the ticket for 5 over. They think they're getting a HUGE break but, the fines the same for 0-9 over. (yes 0, that means 1/2 a mile over, and you can be stopped and cited.... :jerkit:)

As far as what works on getting out of a ticket? Nothing's certain, depends on the Cop, his attitude and experiences. I do the 15 over thing to keep myself somewhat consistent. But, typically I have things I like to hear and hate to hear. I like it when people know how fast they were going, at least they're paying attention, others may say it only proves they intended to speed, my argument is that everyone speeds, at least they know what they're doing. I hate it when people interupt me. I ALWAYS ask for a license registration and insurance before I let anyone know why I stopped them. I hate it when I ask for those things and someone says, "well, why did you stop me?" If I tell them before they get those things, it takes them forever to find them, all they think about is what they can do to get out of it. Typically if you give me the "well why did you stop me first?" line as if you're not going to cooperate if you don't think it was a good reason, I'm gonna fuck your night over.
I hate snotty people too. If you act like your better than me i'll try to take you down a few levels. DUI's are where these mostly come out, and they're my favorite DUI arrests. Don't tell me that if you get another ticket you'll lose your license. All that says is your a shitty driver and if I can get you off the road it'll be one less traffic accident I have to take during my lunch break.

Then there's always the "Don't you have anything better to do?" That's really one of favorites, isn't it obvious? Or the "why arn't you catching the drug dealers?"
Last week a squid blew a red light right in front of me. No gear except for the helmet on the passenger seat. No motorcycle endorsement either. I wrote him for the red light and no endorsement. I gave him an option of paying the fine to the court, or taking a MSF class and getting his license. He chose the class. I gave two weeks to get registered, I know the guy over it so, we'll see how this works out.

So to answer your question, there's no right or wrong way for any particular stop. I figure, everyone speeds. One time or another, your gonna get caught. Think of how many times youve blasted down your favorite road and not been stopped?


Glad you got a warning, You sound pretty lucky that way.
 

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Ever since I dated a gal whos dad was a cop (yes, he liked me), I have had the uncanny ability to see a cop as a person, not a badge. Personable, honest, and respectful go a long way when dealing with "the other side" of the law;D. If I was a super hero I would be super getouttatickets man. Best one yet: pulled for 93 in a 55, on a turn (marked 40mph corner). AND expired tags. By the end of the conversation, we were talking about how "cool" his harley was. Walked away with a warning for 6 over, and a fixit for my tag. No fines. Just renewed my tag, took the receipt in and thats it. My tags were expired because I was moving when they mailed my notice, and I was waiting on new paperwork. I couldn't resist a good ride. Oh yeah, when he said "Do you know how fast you were going?", I said "No, I was watching the apex; but I'm curious now, what's your radar say?" with a wink and a smile. He laughed, immediately dropped the mean cop demeanor, and replied "93, what the hell kinda bike is that?" I knew I had him then. Best car story was gettin pulled for drag racing my Monte SS, ended up talking cars with the cop, who let me go sans ticket. That one was about 80 in a 35 (for a block). I miss my monte.
 
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I got pulled 65 in a 40, cop wanted to sit in my GTO, let me go with no ticket or warning. :drink: got pulled doing 80 in a 50, cop was a biker and he let me go too. Said he didn't like my tag placement though. ;D
 

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When I got pulled over last year this is what I learned:

  • Pull over immediately. Bikes run a lot and if you are pulled over and off the bike by the time the leo has turned and pulled in behind you they are way happy they don't have to chase you!
  • Admit you were speeding and apologize!
  • Don't give them a BS line, they hate it!

I walked away from a 20 over ticket with a warning, and 45 minute BS session accomplished. It was a fairly new city officer that I hadn't met yet, but she sure knows me now and will come over to chat on calls if neither one of us is horribly busy. She said the biggest thing that saved me from a ticket was me pulling in right next to her & proceeding to take my helmet off... She never had to leave the parking lot she was in. Sportbikes have a really bad rap with LEOs around here because the often run (and get away). Reminds me, gotta give her a call and see if she'll radar speedy for me a couple times to see if the speedo correction is spot on or not! ;D

COPS RULE!
 

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+1 on cops are people, too.

Some of the shit they have to put up with, I try not to give them a hard time.

Best story was on vacation back in '89. I was travelling with my wife and two toddlers through rural North Carolina, and got pulled over for doing 72 in a 35. Trooper asked for my info, and I realized I had the wrong registration in the glove. I just gave him my stuff, told him I knew I was speeding, and apologized, explaining I had two screaming toddlers who wanted dinner and bed, and the motel was still 150 miles away. He said that the speed should be 55 on that stretch of road, but the local town lowered the limit to 35, for 'revenue enhancement'.

He let me go with a warning, and said I was a brave man, riding with TWO toddlers.

He never noticed the registration was for an '83 Honda Accord, not the '87 Rover Sterling I was driving.
 

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I've heard from several people (non-cops) that after a warning ticket is issued your licence # is "flagged" so if they call your licence # over the radio the dispatcher will know you've had a recent warning. Never put much faith in it, but after a warning, I always try to play it cool for a month or so. :jerkit: Is there such a thing as this?
 

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Sorry, trippeee, no warning tickets in Va. so I don't know how they effect your driver transcript. Good comments on the thread, "ditto" on all that J-Pip wrote I operate in mostlty the same manner. And as far as Dfib is concerned, I don't write cops, firefighters, active military or PARAMEDICS......you never know when they might be plugging a sucking chest wound on the side of some dirty highway!!!

P.S. J-Pip, are you (or any other cops on this site) gonna be at National Law Enforcement Memorial Week in D.C.? I know it's a long way for you to travel...Just wondering 'cos I'll be up there hoisting many pints!!! :beer:
 

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hey limebone, just outta curiousity... what kind of officer are you in VA(trooper, deputy, city cop, etc...)? I'm just curious, I almost got put in jail 7 about 7 years ago in VA. :horse: :violent1: Yer damn right, VA officers don't play, especially the troopers, off duty one's at that. :violent1: :horse:

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I don't write cops, firefighters, active military or PARAMEDICS......you never know when they might be plugging a sucking chest wound on the side of some dirty highway!!!

P.S. J-Pip, are you (or any other cops on this site) gonna be at National Law Enforcement Memorial Week in D.C.? I know it's a long way for you to travel...Just wondering 'cos I'll be up there hoisting many pints!!! :beer:
What about us ol' retired farts!?? :twofinger: Where in Virginia are you?
 

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And as far as Dfib is concerned, I don't write cops, firefighters, active military or PARAMEDICS......you never know when they might be plugging a sucking chest wound on the side of some dirty highway!!!
I always figure it works out pretty well... As long as I don't get tickets I am more than happy to haul drunks for the officers with out complaint.... Saves them from cleaning puke out of the back of their squads. Also I'm always sure to buy the first beer when I run into a co-worker LEO when out.

Fostering good working relationships is half the battle, trying like hell to not give a reason to get pulled over is the other half... Speedy makes the second half hard though! :smitty:
 

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I'm a trooper, on the I-81 corridor. My barracks are in Harrisonburg Va. about 45 mins. south of Winchester and about 1 1/2 hours outside of D.C.

As far as retired military, Iusually give them a warning, you "old farts" have done your time in the barrel!!

Don't worry, anyone riding a Triumph has a "get outta jail free" pass!! Besides I don't spend much time working the "road". I'm assigned to one of our Tactical Teams (SWAT) and as a result I'm on special duty alot of the time.

Sorry about your experience with us Cheap!! It's a bad thing that you had a run-in, a good thing that you didn't go to jail!!!
 

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awwww, no worries limebone, I deserved it. :violent1: ;D I was running like 120-130 mph on some back roads near Stuart, Va. Passed an off duty trooper in a Dodge dually running that speed. Needless to say, about 10 minutes later when we came into town we had a nice surprise wait'n on us. :horse: Long story, but we got the book thrown at us, and was told to bring our damn toothbrushes to court. Luckily, I didn't have to spend the night, but I did git stuck with the reckless driving. :-\ :violent1:
 

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When I went to pick up speedy I got pulled just outside Roanoke. I saw him pull out after I passed so I picked a nice wide spot, pulled way off the road, and had my papers out waiting for him when he walked up. He wrote me for 77 in a 65 and no seat belt even though I had it on when he got to the window. I bet he didn't say 10 words, all business. Didn't bother me much though, I was so pumped about going to get the bike and all.
 

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Ahhh the 'ol toothbrush line....To be honest with you, it's gotta be murder, rape or armed robbery for me to do anything about it off-duty. Sounds like he took his job mighty seriously! By the way, they got some nice roads down around Stuart, I don't blame you for being a bit of a hooligan in those parts.
 

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Some cops are just cooler than others. Its funny but I can name a few guys from high school who were TOTAL pothead, trippin' hippies in school, who are now cops. Not saying they are cool cops, just that cops come from ALL walks...
 

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When I went to pick up speedy I got pulled just outside Roanoke. I saw him pull out after I passed so I picked a nice wide spot, pulled way off the road, and had my papers out waiting for him when he walked up. He wrote me for 77 in a 65 and no seat belt even though I had it on when he got to the window. I bet he didn't say 10 words, all business. Didn't bother me much though, I was so pumped about going to get the bike and all.
77/65 = chicken shit. Especially on I-81. What dealer did you get your bike from? I didn't know there was a Triumph dealer around there.
 

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I've heard from several people (non-cops) that after a warning ticket is issued your licence # is "flagged" so if they call your licence # over the radio the dispatcher will know you've had a recent warning. Never put much faith in it, but after a warning, I always try to play it cool for a month or so. :jerkit: Is there such a thing as this?
I forgot to mention that. Us PO-lice have a seperate records system that the driver's license division. A warning for ma Riverdale officer is recorded as a ticket on the police records system, but doesn't get reported to the DLD. So you're not neccesarily "flagged" but it would show up as a moving violation or equipment violation.

Dfib, I forgot to mention the firemen and medics, I don't write them either. Although out here they give fire plates to everyone and their dog.
 
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