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I thought I'd start a discussion about hooliganism since so many are starting to adopt the nickname at about the rate that yuppies adopted the badass biker image without actually being badasses.

The dictionary defines a hooligan as;

-A tough and aggressive or violent youth.
-A cruel and brutal fellow.


Does this mean the individual has to actually act thuggish, violent, or brutal or can a person who just pulls wheelies/stoppies on their bike instantly start calling themself a hooligan?

In my mind, I instantly think of the famous football hooligans of europe when I define the term. Not necessarily people who would shiv a granny for crossing the wrong street, but definitely someone who has their buddies' backs and will dive into a scuffle at the drop of a hat if provoked. I wouldn't quite consider myself a hooligan as I don't go out regularly looking to beat the shit out of people just for wearing the wrong colors or supporting the wrong team. I AM proud to be a punk and follow such a philosophy.

What do you ladies think?
 
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English football hooligans are a very good example. Maybe it is certain type of aggression channeled through the interests. Disrespecting the authorities.

Yes I can pull wheelies and stoppies, even burnout donuts. But I have done lot other stuff as well in my life, which can be easily considered as a hooliganism. But no I am not a hooligan nor consider myself that way, I drive bike like it would be stolen, but otherwise I behave moderately well.
 

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I know if there weren't laws I'd be a very bad boy. I just make the conscious decision to avoid jail/prison. Not interested in doing anything that'd get me a suite in the Gray Bar Hilton and a roommate named Bubba.
 

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Only half of that is hooligan. The rest is straight up :squid:
This is likely a repost, but this Wiki of Squid is pretty funny (especially the part refering to the swimming behaviour of young squids..):

A squid is an irresponsible motorcyclist. The term is derogatory and common among motorcyclists in the United States and is generally associated with a new or reckless motorcyclist seen riding erratically and/or beyond his or her capabilities, often without appropriate riding gear.

The origin of the word is varyingly attributed:

A contraction of:
"Squirrely" and "kid" (possibly taken from California surfing culture), or
"Squished" and "kid", or
"Squished" and "idiot"
An acronym for:
"Stupidly Quick, Underdressed, Ignorant and Dangerous", or
"Stupidly Quick, Underdressed and Imminently Dead"
Note: both of these are likely to be backronyms

Derivative of U.S. military culture:
Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.
"Squid" was also a common derogatory term for sailors:
Recent inductees were called "squids" by more senior sailors, and
All sailors were called "squids" by Marines

Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid swims.
Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have a tendency to ride very fast on the straight sections of the road.

Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding, wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts, backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".

They could also be called "squids" because of ambulance drivers' slang for motorcyclists. In a bad accident without leathers or other good protection, it's possible for the torso to become detached from the legs. At that point, the intestines can drag along behind the torso - thus giving a grisly "tentacled body" appearance.
 
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F*ck, I think i'm lost in definition . I never realy knew what a squid was . At one time I was a hooligan ... I don't burn out much and wheelies kill your forks and I 've tried stoppies but almost ate my front tire so i figured it was bad for my health. But do carry ball bearings at times for douchebags and love the occasional fly-by .
Thought i was maybe a hooligan but just found out I am just a DICK! :devil: :twofinger: :devil: :twofinger: :devil: :twofinger: :devil: :twofinger: :devil: :twofinger: :devil: :twofinger: :devil: :twofinger: :finger: :squid: :sign7:
 
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Just read the SQUID article . That is some good trivial knowledge . Didn't know that carried over to motorcycling .
Stupidly Quick Underdressed Ignorant and Stupid. GOod stuff . Hat's off to you.
 
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