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I found this on another board and figured it should be shared. I pray you never have to use it.


We all recognize that there are risks in this sport that we love, and there are ways to help minimize the damage done if you or fellow rider taste pavement. That being said, please take 10 minutes out of your busy schedules, and please give this a read...it is simply a "WHAT TO DO IF YOU ARE AT THE SCENE OF A BIKE ACCIDENT" post, and hey, ya never know, it may just save someones life some day. I am not trying to preach to anyone, I am just saying that it is better to have this info and not need it rather than need this potentially lifesaving info at the scene of an accident and not have it. In the case of an accident scene, ignorance is definitely not bliss, so although it is a long post, i think it is well worth the few minutes it takes ya to read it.

>ACCIDENT SCENE MANAGEMENT

The first hour of trauma is termed the ``Golden Hour'' by the Emergency
Medical Services (EMS). The idea is that trauma victims have the best
survival chance if they are in surgery within one hour after the accident.
Qualified medical personnel are really the people who should be handling
everything, but until they arrive there are things that we, untrained
motorcyclists, can do to help the medical professionals before they arrive.

An extremely important point it ``Psychological Management''. At an accident
site, peoples' adrenaline will be going full-blast and the most important
thing is for at least one person to keep calm and to think.

REMAIN CALM... THINK!

The first thing you need to do when arriving on an accident scene is to
stop, take two deep breaths to help you remain calm.

Anyway, the idea of psychological management is that all the other people
who are pumped and want to help will do whatever they are told to do by a
calm person who seems to be in control and knows what he or she is doing.
If you're excited and out of control as well, everyone will run around
wasting precious time in an unorganized fashion (not to be confused with
everyone running around wasting precious time in an organized fashion, mind
you).

1) Get to victim, reassure, establish communication, first evaluation of
victim 2) Safety factors 3) Best-trained individual (medically-wise)
attends to victim (U-ABCC) 4) If breathing is taking place normally, LEAVE
HELMET ON! 4a) helmet removal procedure if airway blocked or no respiratory
action. 5) After initial evaluation of seriousness of injuries, call for
ambulance 5a) Things to tell EMS operator 5b) Things that may be necessary
for victim 6) Document personal information if possible (victim may pass
out) 6b) AMPLE documentation 7) Wallets, purses, rings 8a) Have person
check pulse every 5 minutes & document it 8b) Have person check breathing
every 5 minutes & document it 9) Watch for signs of person going into shock
10) Stop bleeding, using sterile bandages/dressings if available 11) In
case of femur injuries (extremely common in moto accidents), check for
blood loss 12) When ambulance arrives 13) At the hospital 14) Dealing with
law enforcement 15) Thank yous 16) Couple of miscellaneous notes 17) Four
most important points to remember

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1) Get to victim, reassure, establish communication, first evaluation of
victim

After a person has gone down, they will be in a confused and scared state.
They probably don't know what happened when they went down. They may be
confused, frantic, etc., and often the only thing on their mind will be
their bike. It is important to reassure them and to make sure they will not
try to move or get to their bike.
You can tell them the following:
``You've been in a motorcycle accident. It is important that you do not
try to move. My name is Jason (whatever your name is).'' Tell them the ambulance is coming (assuming someone has
been sent to get one!) If your name is something like ``Chainsaw'' or
``Mega-death'', tell them your name is John.

Be careful what you say around the victim, even if they are unconscious.
Hearing works in the unconscious state and if you say something like,
``Boy, is this dude messed up bad! Maybe we shouldn't call an ambulance
after all!'', it's going to register at some level with the person and can
do nothing but harm. How you say things will be important as what you say;
keep (or at least sound) calm and it will reduce the panic of everyone else
present.

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Safety factors

An accident scene can be a hectic place with a lot of things going on at
once. It is important to keep safety in mind; if you are helping someone
lying in the middle of the road and a semi comes barreling down on both of
you, you aren't going to do that person much good.

a) Traffic If people are available, get someone up road and down road to wave
down traffic. This is especially important in tight twisties where they may
not have time to stop after seeing the accident site.

b) Hazardous material spills (gas, oil, brake fluid) People and vehicles
will slip on this stuff. If ambulance personnel slip on oil while carrying
the victim, it is bad. Either clean it off the road or indicate to everyone
where it is.

c) Power lines If power lines are down around or near the victim, ambulance
crews may not be able to get near the person until they are shut off. It is
important to call the local utility company to get these live wires turned
off at the same time an ambulance is called. If the ambulance arrives and
they are still live, they will have to call the utility company and wait
for them to come out, wasting a lot of precious time in the Golden Hour.

d) Fire People who smoke tend to light up under stress. Ask these people to
either extinguish their smokes or move away from the flammable materials
and/or bikes. It is easy to forget something obvious like this in a
stressful situation like an accident scene.

e) Safety circle Establish a few people around the immediate accident scene
to help direct traffic, to point out fluid spills, and to warn people who
may want to light up (see (d)).

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Best-trained individual (medically-wise) attends to victim (U-ABCC)

The person with the most training (first aid, CPR, etc.) attends directly
to the victim. Assuming the victim is lying on the ground, this person
should sit behind their head and should stabilize his or her head to avoid
unnecessary movement (i.e. hold their head still). Assume the person has a
back/neck injury and any unnecessary movement could risk paralysis.

This person should be doing ``U-ABCC'' at the arrival on the scene and
every 5 minutes thereafter

U Unresponsiveness (?) Ask the victim three questions and document their
responses;

Who are you? Where are you? What time of day is it? (Or asking what day of
week it is would be fine also. Many people do not know what time of day it
is without a watch even in a normal state.)

A Airway Is there something to impede their airway? Gravel in the helmet,
something down the throat? This needs to be cleared immediately, without
helmet removal if at all possible.

B Breathing Is the person breathing? Determined by listening, watching
their chest, feeling for breath, etc.

C Circulation Check the pulse on the throat initially and subsequently on
their wrist. This is the carotid artery, right next to the wind pipe/adam's
apple on either side. If pulse is not present, remove helmet if necessary
and begin CPR immediately. When checking pulse on their wrist, do not check
with thumb; use the two fingers next to the thumb.

C Cervical Spine Immobilization Support the victim's head and make sure
they don't move it. CONSIDER EVERY MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT A HEAD INJURY, CONSIDER EVERY MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT A CERVICAL/BACK INJURY! This is important even if they feel they can move their head normally! When you talk to the victim initially, add on a short bit to reassure them;

``You've been in a motorcycle accident. It is important that you don't
move. My name is Jason. Answer me without moving your head. We don't know
if you have a neck injury or not. An ambulance is on the way.''

Again, make sure that the victim does not move at all, their head or any
other part.

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If breathing is taking place normally, LEAVE HELMET ON!

It is very dangerous to remove someone's helmet if they have some type of
cervical/back injury. The only time it should be removed is if the airway
is blocked and cannot be cleared with the helmet on or if it is necessary
to perform CPR.

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helmet removal procedure if airway blocked or no respiratory action.

This is the method recommended by the American College of Orthopedic
Surgeons. It requires two people.

Remove glasses and unbuckle the chinstrap. One person should be to the side
of the head of the victim and the other person should be directly behind
the head of the victim, stabilizing the head to avoid excess movement (as
seen in (3)).

The person on the side puts one hand behind the victim's head supporting at
the base of the skull (not on helmet). They put their other hand on the jaw
bone/chin (again, not on helmet). They will be supporting the head, so it
is important to get a good solid grip. Keep some tension in the arms so
that if the person pulling the helmet slips the victim's head won't drop.

The person sitting behind the head will then slowly pull the helmet
directly back and off of the head. Watch out for catching the nose on the
chin-guard on full-face helmets, as well as ears and earrings.

After the helmet is off, put a leather jacket or something under the head
of the victim! If the person supporting their head lets go, their head will
drop a good 4 inches or so. This would not be good. If possible, it would
be best to have a third person ready with something to place under the
victim's head once the helmet is off.

After the helmet is off, the person behind the head should again hold the
victim's head to promote cervical immobilization.

AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY TO BE USED IN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS NO OTHER
OPTION! Leave the helmet on until the ambulance personnel arrive if at all
possible!

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After initial evaluation of seriousness of injuries, call for ambulance

After there has been a quick evaluation of the number of injured people and
just the most preliminary guess of seriousness, someone has to be sent to
get an ambulance. Remember that an ambulance can only support one truly
injured person.

......

It is important to remember that a lot of the injuries that don't look
serious to us could very well be life-threatening and injuries that look
fatal are relatively minor. Don't get fancy with the initial seriousness evaluation. If you can't tell, assume it's Urgent!

Send one or two bikes to the nearest house.

When you go to the door, REMAIN CALM... THINK! Take a second and a couple
of deep breaths. It will not help to have this biker person in a very
excited state on the doorstep of some person's home. The people will be far
more receptive to someone who looks like they have a grip on themselves.

Do not ask directly for entry into their house; something like ``There has
been an accident. Please call 911.'' There is no need to specify that it
was a motorcycle accident to them (it is important to let the Emergency
Medical Services dispatcher know that it was a motorcycle accident,
however). It is less threatening to ask to call 911 than it is to ask to
come in and use their phone.

5a) Things to tell Emergency Medical Services dispatcher

General tips/things to cover when talking to the EMS dispatcher:

a) there has been a motorcycle accident b) need an ambulance c) the # of
injured people (and how badly injured they are). A severely traumatized
person will require an entire ambulance to themselves, so it is important
to give the EMS dispatcher some idea of the scope of the accident. If they
only send one ambulance and there are two people who need one immediately,
it will be a problem. d) location of accident (get help from the people
whose phone you're using, they should know how to describe their location
best) e) You (the caller) hangs up last! The EMS dispatchers are
well-trained and will get all the information they need from you before
hanging up. Stay on the line until they do.

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Things that may be necessary for victim

It is helpful if you know some special equipment is going to be necessary
to tell the dispatcher;

a) Helicopter: Most rural areas cannot handle severe trauma and they may
need to get the victim to a trauma center via helicopter. If they know
there may be a need, they can get the helicopter ready to leave for the
rural hospital when a doctor establishes the extent of the injuries.

b) fire: Should the fire department be called in?

c) Jaws of life

d) Utilities See (2-C) about downed power lines above.

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Document personal information if possible (victim may pass out)

Before the ambulance arrives, if possible, document information about the
victim. They may become unconscious and it will be helpful to have
information like

Full name Next of kin (plus phone number) Age, date of birth Doctor

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AMPLE documentation

Remember that ``There is AMPLE time to document this before the ambulance arrives.'' Again, this will be very helpful to the paramedics if the victim passes out.

A Are you allergic to anything? medications/latex/iodine being the key here, not so much food allergies.
M Are you on any medications? Street drugs?
P What's your past medical history?
L Last meal - when did you eat last?
(will help anesthesiologist if one is necessary)
E What were the events leading up to the injury? Document the mechanisms of injury. If the doctors and paramedics have some idea how accident occurred, it will give them
better ideas on what kind of injuries to look for. Did the person low-side
and slide for a while on one of their sides? Did they go over the bars? Did
they head-butt a solid object, such as a car? If they went over the bars,
is there any obvious damage to the tank/handlebars which might indicate they
hit the lower abdomen/groin area? This kind of stuff could help the
doctors/paramedics.

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Wallets, purses, rings

Do not go rooting through personal effects of the person. There should be
no need to go through their wallet or purse for insurance information; the
hospital personnel will deal with all of that. If there is some important
reason that you need something from their wallet or purse, make sure you
have at the very least a witness! Preferably a law enforcement officer if
possible. If the person is conscious, ask first and if they say ``no'' then
don't push it.

If the person has rings on, the fingers may swell up and it is important to
get them off. Consent is paramount if the person is conscious. Make sure
there is at least one witness when removing them.

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Have person check pulse every 5 minutes & document it

Every 5 minutes the pulse should be checked at the wrist. If the pulse goes
away at the wrist, check at the throat. This is a late sign of shock (see
9).

Write down the number of beats per minute and the time you took the
measurement.

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Have person check breathing every 5 minutes & document it

Just like the pulse, check number of breaths per minute, the most reliable
method being by placing your hand on the person's chest. Obviously if the
victim is female it would be best to have another lady do this if at all
possible.

Try to check their breathing rate without their knowing it. If they know
you are counting their respirations, they may unconsciously alter their
breathing rate.

Record this number along with the pulse every 5 minutes. Also note the type
of breathing; fast, shallow, yodeling, gurgling, labored, easy, whatever.
Even in layman's terms it may be useful to the paramedics.

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Watch for signs of person going into shock

Signs of shock:

a) Inability to answer the 3 questions coherently (Who are you, etc.) b)
Pale, cool, clammy skin c) Delayed capillary refill press your fingernail
so that it turns white. It should turn back to pink in less than 2 seconds.
If it takes longer, that is not a good sign. d) Radial pulse (pulse at the
wrist) goes away but there is still a pulse on the neck

There isn't much we can do once someone starts going into shock, but a few
minor things that may help:

a) Assure adequate breathing. This really comes with the AB of U-ABCC. b)
Loosen restrictive clothing. c) Reassure victim. d) Keep the person warm
(not too hot though). e) Elevate the feet ~6 in. This is actually a
judgment call since you shouldn't really do that with suspected spinal
injuries. Actually this is headed out... No need to elevate the feet.f) Control bleeding. This is probably obvious but if you don't
realize the victim is bleeding and they are rapidly going into shock, this
should tell you something. g) Immobilize fractures. This helps relieve pain
and control bleeding.

Stop bleeding, using sterile bandages/dressings if available

Two important things here are to (a) stop any bleeding as soon as possible
and (b) keep the wounds sanitary as much as possible. Peripheral limbs are
commonly lost to infection, but given the choice between stopping bleeding
and using a nonsanitary cover, using the nonsanitary wrapping is preferred.
Blood loss is bad.

If sterile dressings are not immediately available, women in the group may
be carrying sanitary tampons, or Kotex napkins. Either can be used as a
sterile dressing, although obviously the sanitary napkins would be
superior.

EXCEPTION: If there are cuts anywhere on the head, do NOT apply pressure.
If there is a bone chip it is possible to push it into the brain. It is
also possible that stopping the flow of blood or cerebral spinal fluid can
lead to a buildup of pressure on the brain which is not good. You should
still bandage the cuts loosely.

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In case of femur injuries (extremely common in moto accidents), check for
blood loss

80% of motorcycle accidents involve someone going over the top of their motorcycle. Femur (the ``thigh bone'') injuries are very frequent. There are huge arteries that run along the inner thigh; if these are compromised the person can bleed to death in a
very short amount of time. It is important to minimize bleeding in this
region! Use a pressure point above the cut to control blood flow out of the
femur artery.

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When ambulance arrives

Before the ambulance arrives, send people to the intersections in all
directions to watch for/direct the ambulance.

When the ambulance arrives, it is important to stay out of their way as
much as possible. Meet them and identify yourself as being ``in charge''
and to be the person to contact if they need anything (bikes moved, people
moved, whatever). Make sure you

a) Provide accessible parking for ambulance b) Let EMT's know who's in
charge c) Give factual account of accident (``And then the car comes along
at 154 feet per second and hits our buddy here!'' is probably not going to
help anything). At 40 MPH, there are 60,000 units of kenetic energy. At
50MPH, there are 120,000. It is IMPORTANT for medical personnel to have an
HONEST estimate of the speed and circumstances at the time of the accident.
d) Give them all of the information that has been written down (periodic
vital signs and the three questions from U-ABCC at 5 minute intervals,
personal information about the victim, etc.) e) Give EMT's an honest
evaluation of patient's drug/alcohol consumption f) Stay back or leave if
told g) give EMT's time to work

It is important to give the ambulance people the most accurate information
possible! If the person just had 10 beers in the past hour, tell them! They
are not the law enforcement officials and their only immediate concern is
the safety of the patient. By underestimating, trying to cover up, or not
telling the whole truth, you are only keeping important information away
from them which may be necessary for the safety of the patient.

If the helmet was removed, send it along in the ambulance. The doctors may
use the visible damage to the helmet to assist them in what to look for in
terms of injuries.

If there were leaking fluids, let the medical personnel know. The fluids
may have gotten on the patient and they need to know if there was oil, gas,
brake fluid or something like that on an open wound.

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At the hospital

Only have one or two people in the Emergency Room at a time. If the doctors
have questions and neither of the people in the ER know the answer, send
one of them out to the other people to find out the answer. Crowding
everyone into the ER will only make it more stressful and difficult for the
ER staff to do their jobs.

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Dealing with law enforcement

As with the the ambulance, when law enforcement arrives identify yourself
as being ``in charge''. Let them know that if there is anything they need,
such as bikes moved or people moved, you are the person to talk to.

For them, walking on to a scene of bikers who are all in a very excited
state is intimidating and this will help calm them and give them some easy
way to control the bike people.

It is obviously important to do whatever the law enforcement officials ask.

Before the officers do arrive, try to not move motorcycle parts any more
than necessary! They may need to take accident scene notes and by moving
things around you may confuse the situation for them. Parts will need to be
moved off the road to avoid further accidents, but move them directly to
the side so the law enforcement officials can determine roughly where it
stopped if necessary. Try not to disturb the bike any more than necessary.
(Petcock should be shut off, electrics turned off, bike propped up
vertically, etc.)

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Thank yous

Officers often get little or no recognition for helping out on the scene. It will cheer all of them up to no end to receive some kind of thanks for their help; any of the following
are appropriate

1: cards 2: in newspaper 3: in person

It will improve our image as bikers and rewards all those people who take
time out of their own lives to help others. It is important!

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Couple of miscellaneous notes

Leathers will have to be cut off by medical personnel. Be mentally prepared
for it. If they do not cut off your clothes, they will not be able to do a
proper assessment of the wounds and you are not being treated properly! If
you are conscious and insist that they do not cut your leathers, they
cannot by law. If you are unconscious, it is implied consent and they will
remove them if in doubt.

Over 50% of fatalities are alcohol related. I know it's a cliche' but don't
let friends drink and ride unless you're prepared to lose that friend.

Like I said earlier, in 80% of the accidents involve going over the
handlebars. If your bladder is full, the extreme pressure can easily cause
it to break. Make a pitstop by the bathroom before you leave.

In an emergency situation, psychological management is important. If a
central person takes charge and is remaining calm, this will transfer to
all of the other people on the scene and will help the victim far more than
if everyone is overly excited and pumped with adrenaline. Take two deep
breaths when you feel yourself losing it.

Take basic first aid and CPR courses! They are offered through the Red Cross
and several other organizations periodically. Go with some riding buddies
or get your club to have a class! Or even better yet. Look for a "First Responder" class in your area. Basically 40 hours of emergency medical training. (Should be taught to all highschool seniors IMHO)

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Four most important points from this:

The four most important things were

a) Stay calm b) U-ABCC c) AMPLE d) Who are you/Where are you/What time of
day is it?
 

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That's some brilliant info there Dfib,way to go.Had a mate go down into a culvet in January and his Triumph America landed on top of him pinning him in the ditch.Alot of the info above was used as another mate knew what to do.Thank god for the ambo's i say. :drink:
 

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Very good information! :pow:

Funny though that cultural differences can be seen here too for example in checking breathing on a female and removing rings etc. I feel sorry for ya guys ;D
 

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Dfib said:
Or even better yet. Look for a "First Responder" class in your area. Basically 40 hours of emergency medical training. (Should be taught to all highschool seniors IMHO)
Couldn't agree more. There are many many things that should be taught in public schools that just aren't. A short list:

Basic realistic sex education. (i.e. not based on religious principals, but the fact that kids are just gonna no matter what we tell them.)

Basic firearms safety- once a year from grades kindergarten through high school, and age appropriate.

Money and Credit management skills.

Basic parenting skills! For every student!

Critical thinking. A subject that should be required, but has been downsized completely from many schools, and is an elective class for the rest that most kids won't take.

Physical Education with focus on fitness and maintaining health instead of promoting sports.

And, as Dfib mentioned, First Aid and First Responder education.

Most kids are completely clueless on most or all of these subjects.
 

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I would like to change one thing though. As a student at the police academy we are thought these things all the time. However, the first rule in both Swedish teachings and US are situation first. Nobody ever goes out to the victim unless the situation is safe. Otherwise you could end up with two victims in a couple of minutes. And you're first assessment would be if you are going to have to move this person. Even if it could end up doing more damage to already conflicted injury's.
Believe me, this is not an easy thing to asses. And even if we are taught, I don't know what to do half the time.
The sad thing is though that a lot of rescue workers have been injured or killed trying to save people to quick without evaluating the situation.
Work after the S-ABCDE
S- Safety, situation
A- Airways
B- Breathing
C- Circulation and bleeding
D- Disability, work after the AVPU
(A-Alert V-Verbal P-Pain U-Unresponsive)
E- Environment ( not situation, protect the person from being cold, wet and so on.)

Otherwise a great post!
 

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Dfib said:
Or even better yet. Look for a "First Responder" class in your area. Basically 40 hours of emergency medical training. (Should be taught to all highschool seniors IMHO)
Couldn't agree more. There are many many things that should be taught in public schools that just aren't. A short list:

Basic realistic sex education. (i.e. not based on religious principals, but the fact that kids are just gonna no matter what we tell them.)

Basic firearms safety- once a year from grades kindergarten through high school, and age appropriate.

Money and Credit management skills.

Basic parenting skills! For every student!

Critical thinking. A subject that should be required, but has been downsized completely from many schools, and is an elective class for the rest that most kids won't take.

Physical Education with focus on fitness and maintaining health instead of promoting sports.

And, as Dfib mentioned, First Aid and First Responder education.

Most kids are completely clueless on most or all of these subjects.
Crashmaster,

All the subjects you mention I agree upon 100%. However, people should do those things with kids anyway...it's called PARENTING!
 

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Absolutely, Mr. Diesel.

Trouble is, of the few parents that actually do parent most are not qualified to teach most of these, and almost none can teach them all.

For instance, I could do a pretty good job of everything but the First Aid / First Responder issue. But I have no children. ;D

However I'm an anomaly. I know quite a few who could do a good job with two or three of these subjects, but even most of them? Nobody I know.

As always, opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of anyone but me.
 

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Good news!!!

I got the ok from the boss to put together a class for a motorcycle first responder/first aid class today. (Being a biker himself I think he might have had a little spoo in his pants, especially considering the PR oportunity)

We're going to offer it free of charge to anybody in the area who wants to attend. After the class material is done I'll be looking to the local dealers and hospitals for a little sponsorship. I hope to offer the class the once a month the next three months. As I get farther along I would be glad to share the powerpoint file with anyone interested.

Stay tuned! :popcorn:
 

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That's fantastic Dfib. Wish someone would do that around here.
 

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If every thing goes as planned, anybody on this board should be able to take the power point file with notes and maybe a tape of one of the classes I teach and go ahead and start teaching it. The class is going to be geared for the average motorcycle rider and be free of jargon. Basically a first aid class geared towards motorcyclists.
 

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Let me know how it goes. Maybe I could arrange something.
 

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Haven't seen Smitty around here in a long time.
 

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Dfib=Smitty. He's an EMT.

He actually did a powerpoint thing for what to do in an accident and posted it up here. I don't remember what happened to it.
 
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