[cwb4tx]

New here so go easy if I missed something in my search. I dont see any specs on the wolf trident system. I like the look and know it costs about 1.7k in current pounds/usd conversion, but don't see any data on weight, torque, or HP. ANyone have this data or know where to get it? (also, why it's so @#@#[email protected]$ expensive???)

Thanks

C-Dub

 

[Devious2xs]

I assume you mean the half system - in carbon - for the price you mentioned.

I can't remember the weight loss - it is fairly large for a dual system. The stock system is HEAVY.

Power/torque - Trident claims 8 hp. (?) ALL systems will make around the same power and torque until the restriction in the stock header is removed. Then the Trident design can flow more than many others, and make more power and torque. But you are going to need to tune to make the most of it.

Cost - Dual carbon cans and a large midpipe cost more than a single stainless can to produce. The current exchange rates sure don't help. But it is still expensive.

On any exhaust system, if you are going to want to make more power, make sure it can flow what you need. I have made over 135 hp with the Trident, and there is a lot more left.

What are your plans?

If you like the dual silencer look, compare the Chain Reaction, Arrow dual, and Leo Vince dual systems as well.

 

[cwb4tx]

Thanks for the reply Devious! I have seen all these systems and the styling of the wolf is (for now...) the closest to what I would like visually. The arrow and chain systems are close seconds but if I could, I'd like the back end clean on the sides without going to a side pipe like a Vince.

My plans, heh heh... Welllll - in my perfect world they would be to:

1) get an underseat exhaust system that didn't cost upwards of 2k that did drop weight and raise hp significantly without me needing to go find a Dyna (remember, this is my perfect world, but I'd settle for getting a tuneboy and starting with a "close" load someone grants to me out of the kindness of their heart...),

2) find a rear seat cowl that, compared to the standard accessory, actually had a bit more rise with bit more of a rider seat-back on it and some added storage underneath as a bonus (as well as it being already matched to my snot green paint ) ,

3) get a back end tail light system like the picture here (remember, in my perfect world, the underseat pipes won't interfere with this..)

And that's just for the first few months. 8)

Any thoughts you may have (or even scathing comtempt at my Utopian outlook) are welcome!!! opcorn:


C-Dub

 

[wolf]

C Dub - the 1/2 system will give up to 12 bhp with the tune and saves about 12-14 lbs in weight
The price in US $ is actually only $1385 at today's exchange rate - which is not cheap but a lot better than $1700!! Not sure where that came from...

You can get more info at www.trident-exhausts.com or contact me direct at [email protected]

 

[Devious2xs]

Like you, I think the Trident looks and sounds great - especially the deep growl of the carbon cans.

With tuning, 12 hp is easy, even more is possible.

If you grind the oxygen sensor boss so it doesn't obstruct flow, the system will make great power. If you remove the baffle/precat in the stock header 125 hp is possible. With tuning, 128-130 hp is likely. See my and TightTL's dyno charts.

 

[cwb4tx]

C Dub - the 1/2 system will give up to 12 bhp with the tune and saves about 12-14 lbs in weight
The price in US $ is actually only $1385 at today's exchange rate - which is not cheap but a lot better than $1700!! Not sure where that came from...

You can get more info at www.trident-exhausts.com or contact me direct at [email protected]

Thanks Wolf. Here is where I got the 1700 figure (cut and paste from the trident website):

"Daytona 955 & Speed Triple Product details
These complete kits require no cutting, drilling or welding to fit and can be easily installed at home in a few hours.
Power is up by 12-14 bhp when the appropriate tune is downloaded. We have made all these systems to work with the Triumph high pipe tunes available at all dealers.
The kits come in race or road legal and with your choice of carbon or titanium silencers for $1,743.00.
Please specify your exact model and year when ordering."

You can PM me if you like rather than get too deep into this thread, but I did a lot of digging on this part and found no real feedback from people in the states who had bought and tested this on a dyno. No published performance graphs or weight specs at the website or otherwise. It is kinda spooky (or maybe I just have terrible search skilz )

Thanks to help clarify why it is so hard to find some user feedback or point out where it might be at.

C-Dub

 

[Devious2xs]

I have the Trident half system in carbon. So does TightTL, Dr. Gallup, and HiVel... to name a few in the US. We all like it.

We have all found it to produce a great sound and power - even at low rpm.

 

[cwb4tx]

Thanks Devious (edit for pre coffee name error), found the graphs

 

[wolf]

Which bike do you have - the quote from the site is for our underseat conversion to the Speed Triple (955 not the new 1050) - Devious etc have the 1050 S3 which has our half system on which is what I priced....

 

[Devious2xs]

The version of the silencers with the little down-spout versus the ones without it sound a bit different from each other as well.

I do not have the spouts and it seems a touch louder, and occasionally I notice a bit of exhaust heat on my back when the riding jacket rides up.

After hearing the Zard and Chain Reaction Moto systems a LOT this weekend, I am thouroughly pleased with the wonderfully deep sound of the carbon half system from Trident. It sounds incredibly powerful/muscular compared to the raspy sound of the Zard. The CRM system is somewhere in between.

I stopped at 29 Dreams (cycle resort) for lunch with CheapBastard (Zard silencer) and HiVel (also a Trident), and we got LOTS of comments on the sound of the bikes.

 

[cheapbastard]

I can vouch fer the Trident being the best pipe I've heard fer speedy yet. I still likes my Zard, but the bass that the Trident puts off is awesome. 8)

 

[StuckInKansas]

I went from Blueflame EVO3's to a zard, and I can tell you that they both have their strong points. The dual cans sound deeper, but the zard is louder accelerating and quieter on the highway. The zard kinda makes the bike sound more like a normal sportbike, and that is the ONLY thing I don't like about it. Dual cans on a S3 make such a unique sound.

 

[wolf]

I'm glad you guys all like the sound we make - I do try to get the deepest possible tone out of my exhausts - we use slightly larger perforated tube with just the right number of holes per square inch to get the right tone on the bike!

 

[Meatwad]

C Dub - the 1/2 system will give up to 12 bhp with the tune and saves about 12-14 lbs in weight
The price in US $ is actually only $1385 at today's exchange rate - which is not cheap but a lot better than $1700!! Not sure where that came from...

You can get more info at www.trident-exhausts.com or contact me direct at [email protected]

New triple owner so forgive me if it's been covered in another thread...Is the 1/2 system mentioned here different from the slip-ons shown on New Speed 3?

 

[Devious2xs]

Yes.

The half system replaces the stock mid-pipe between the header and the silencers with larger diameter tubing/custom parts.

Slip-ons simply replace the stock silencers - using the stock mid-pipe.

You have several silencer options direct from Trident.

 

[whufc0]

I'll be getting the half system after i pick my bike up on the 16th, going for the half system to get rid of the cat in the midpipe on the 2007 model.
Peter seems like a top guy, everytime i've emailed him he replied within minutes.

 

[ChattyS3]

Sorry to dig up this thread, but I thought I could post some useful info. :horse:
The TORS system (midpipe, both cans, and heat shields) weighs in at 16.5 lbs.
The Trident carbon fiber half system (new midpipe, both cans, and hangers) weighs in at 12 lbs.

 

[dainese27]

Hey, Wolf,

I am going back and forth on the CRM and the Trident. I saw the new Custom cans you have on the site and kinda like the look of them. How do they sound compared to the normal version? Do you have a video or sound clip you can point me to?

Dave

 

[ChattyS3]

OK, anyone with the Trident carbon cans, please chime in. The inlet pipe and endcap aren't welded together. Because of this, the inlet pipe can rotate inside the endcap and sleeve. I PM'ed Wolf about this, and he said this is so the muffler can expand and contract with heat cycles.
However, this looseness causes a bit of exhaust leak on both my cans where the inlet pipe goes through the endcap. Does anyone see any potential problems with TIG welding the inlet pipe to the endcap, or should I just leave the leaking alone. It's not too much, but I'm really particular about my stuff.

 

[Guest]

OK, anyone with the Trident carbon cans, please chime in. The inlet pipe and endcap aren't welded together. Because of this, the inlet pipe can rotate inside the endcap and sleeve. I PM'ed Wolf about this, and he said this is so the muffler can expand and contract with heat cycles.
However, this looseness causes a bit of exhaust leak on both my cans where the inlet pipe goes through the endcap. Does anyone see any potential problems with TIG welding the inlet pipe to the endcap, or should I just leave the leaking alone. It's not too much, but I'm really particular about my stuff.

Me thinks that would be the first time a Wolf can has seen a tig :loser: